... so that I don't keep occasionally hijacking others' threads with off topic posts.

Hope some are an interesting read to ya'll, and discussion is of course welcome;

I'll start with this one, which I think is probably best posted with the title, link and small excerpt (<-- hoping that's the appropriate way to post articles on other forums);


"What On Earth Can the Left and Right Compromise?”



Once Conservatives started "compromising" their principles of individual freedom and less government in favor of the Progressive's collective ideology, the end of America's free Republic became preordained


...personally, I woulda began the progressive era catastrophe before the 16th amendment, which the article begins it at. I'd go back at least to the 14th amendment. But that wasn't a compromise by the R party (which somehow is assumed to have a quantum entanglement with 'conservative') and doesn't fit the article's primary point of how compromise has proven destructive, it was the party's primary mission at the time.

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probably not news to y'all, but my strong 'liberty' biases freak out when I think about cities/municipalities I've read about not allowing homeowners to have veggie gardens.

It doesn't surprise me much the governments would do that but is awfully disappointing it's accepted by the people. That's what bothers me most. Really shouldn't matter if you're interested in having one or not, it should/must be a principle thing.


you mentioning butchering reminds me there were several years of my childhood we had our own beef and pork butchered and in a freezer. And had a fairly large garden for veggies which I did most of the tending of. Recall how good home-grown corn on the cob was and being tired of T-bone steaks most every night for awhile :~}. ... you're eating good when you're tired of T-bone steaks

We didn't have T-bone steaks and didn't live on a farm.  Mom went down to KY to visit or decorate her parents graves and would get what she called a smoked picket.  I recall my sons saying they liked a ham my brother-in-smoked 20 years ago. I told them I had had it many times.  We picked wild blackberries and went to a strawberry farm and picked strawberries for pies, cobbler and jelly.  That was our snacks.  No potato chips and pop.

I loved living in Pike County Ky. Picking was a regular among the women of the coal camp. Wild berries, sassafras, polk greens, gathering campher etc. My papa hunted squirrel and we ate a lot of squirrel dumplings. He always nabbed enough squirrel to share with a fellow called Sackman. Sackman was a black man who lived up a path at the head of the camp. We picked paupas off a tree in the fall after the first frost. Folks of the camp would be careful of not picking to many for themself so that others did not go without.

My gillenwater grandparents would always raise 3 pigs which were slaughtered in the fall when the weather turned cold. They had a smokehouse.

People today would not know of the meat quality of yesteryear. They would not recognize for they have been trained for years now to the color of packaged meats.

Norma - you keep reminding me of more. yep, there were wild blackberries nearby that were a real treat, and we had a small strawberry pyramid too.

Patricia - I enjoy reading of your past, thanks for sharing. You've definitely lived interestingly through an era of rapid change. Grats on your 75th b-day, hope the gathering i read about in an email notification of a post you made was to celebrate it.    ...sometimes your history reminds me of mine and others it reminds me of June Carter and Dolly Parton  :~}

Suzie, didn't mean to leave ya out - had my mind on TeaParty Patriots forum, were you there too?

I remember what you're referring to also. When I was a child there was a farm on the route to my grandparent's place that was known to allow people to pick the leftover green beans after they harvested. (didn't know that was called gleaning) It was part of scheduling a trip to their place. I didn't like it much, seemed like unpleasant and unnecessary work to me.  :~} 

yeah too about the lawsuit ruining things.. that sucks. I usually cringe when reading about people being proud to use their misfortune to get yet another law created. Seems like twisted+selfish destructive logic to me. 

No Worries Larry, Oh Yeah! I was on most of the same sites, while I had this site. I started as part of the 912 Project wit Glen Beck, prior to TPP. I was also involved in FreedomWorks during the first big TP March (which officially started with Beck- he and Freedomworks had the permits) I got the code for Intense Debate from Glen Beck from his forums...  I had hundreds of people blogging back then...That is how this began! my old username was "snw912minded"... Do you remember a guy called himself "The Barbarian"? How about the 912 Truck driver?  Mangus has been around since then... and "Quisno" I stay in touch with many of the old timers- they are on my (political) Facebook page

Here is the Facebook link where you can find old members...



Larry, I was just the opposite. I loved picken and hoeing. Loved all the times shucking corn. Enjoyed snapping the green beans, hulling peas and stringing up beans to dry. Picking tomatoes always a treat for I would treat myself to one to quench my thirst. Liked picken apples from the orchard in the fall and knew grandma would soon prepare fried apple pies. Another treat on early Sept. was picking chinquapin my grandmother would tie an old sock around a bent over can lid. This littlenut akin to chestnut family. We would walkout the dirt road to the main road and cry out to a vehicle Chinquapin for Sale. Sold a lot.

I loved to watch neighbor women getting together and canning. 

Good food grown by peoples who lived below the poverty line.

We grew rabbits, wish I had a nickel for each one I killed and dressed. We would take them to a local market and trade for other market foods.

One of my favorite memories while living in a coal camp in Ky just over the WV/Ky border from Williamson WV was the women of the camp making soap in a big black caldron. Nothing went to waste back then.

Lot's of similarities in our past Patricia. Must've had 200+ rabbits in a barn, well over 1000 sometimes including the bunnies. I did say I didn't enjoy that stop much but I think I did kinda enjoy doing some of what you're saying you did with what I grew. I didn't do all of that though, just the picking and shucking type stuff. The cooking+canning parts were done by the adult women in the family. We had a few fruit trees too - apples, pears, sand plums (<--good jelly) and peaches and a few pecan trees.



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