A Beautiful Thought...

A beautiful thought...

 by Hugh Akston

A beautiful thought, but wrong.

"Live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart.
Trouble no one about his religion.
Respect others in their views and demand that they respect yours.
Love your life, perfect your life, beautify all things in your life.
Seek to make your life long and of service to your people.
Prepare a noble death song for the day when you go over the great divide.
Always give a word or sign of salute when meeting or passing a friend,
or even a stranger, if in a lonely place.
Show respect to all people, but grovel to none.
When you rise in the morning, give thanks for the light,
for your life, for your strength.
Give thanks for your food and for the joy of living.
If you see no reason to give thanks, the fault lies in yourself.
Abuse no one and no thing, for abuse turns the wise ones to fools
and robs the spirit of its vision.
When your time comes to die,
be not like those whose hearts are filled with fear of death,
so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time
to live their lives over again in a different way.
Sing your death song, and die like a hero going home."
-- Tecumseh

Satan would love to have us all worship in this way, love one another, do no harm, be at peace with all men, live in strength, die a hero. All on your own without God; earn your own salvation; Give thanks... to whom? This is the problem with live and let live, Satan loves it. Let the other do as he wishes and do not warn him of his sin, let him die in it instead.

Athens had this problem the Unknown God.

Acts 17:23-24 [23] For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. [24] God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

So it is apparent that Tecumseh knew that a God existed, just not who he was.

Romans 1:20-22 [20] For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: [21] Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. [22] Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

All men know God exists; some just deny him, wishing to be the ones in control of their lives they refuse to acknowledge the God of Creation.

This idea even includes the Golden rule, a thing which Satan does not object to, as long as it does not point to Christ.

Matthew 7:12   Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

So why can Satan be so magnanimous? Because if it does not point to the Cross and Christ it does not point to salvation. Satan loves universalism, coexistence, and the Buddhist peace party. Satan loves for people to recite John 3:16 as long as they do not quote John 3:14-21.

Matthew 7:13-14 [13] Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: [14] Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

And here is the condemnation, Satan and men want to deny to others what they themselves will not have.

Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

So why should I care? What you choose to do is between you and God. If I see a man eating nightshade, I will warn him of the poison, if he chooses to keep eating, it is on him; I warned him.

Ezekiel 3:17-21 [17] Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. [18] When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. [19] Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. [20] Again, When a righteous [man] doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand. [21] Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous [man], that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

There are some who will not hear the word of God that is on them not me; it is my duty to proclaim the Gospel, not to make you believe; only God can make you believe. Salvation is a gift of God; no one can buy his way into Heaven with good deeds or money. God cannot be coerced or bribed by our actions. God is Sovereign in all that he does and is answerable to no man. There is one answer to all the questions we may have about God, Heaven and the Bible: God is Sovereign.

God Bless.

Just my thoughts for today.

 

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Comment by Joel Gardberg on October 23, 2014 at 2:01pm

I like Tecumseh, told it like it is and in plain English.  But then again, I'm Jewish.  I see evidence of anti-Jewry in this posting. Imagine, thinking that being a Christian is better than being a Jew.  LOL

Comment by Robert Earl Hutchinson on February 23, 2013 at 10:14pm

"Free Will "  is the foundation of my faith. As I have said before,  my God has given man the ability  to choose Heaven or Hell.  No person or doctrine can mandate the choice, either way.  I do believe,  God should determine who shall be born and when we shall die.  When we alter this, it becomes Murder.  Good night and I hope to see you on the other side of the river. 

REH

Comment by Hugh Akston on December 11, 2012 at 2:30pm

Denis , you asked What authority did God give mankind to judge? Exodus 18, Deuteronomy 18; you are referring to Mathew 7; it is a warning that you will be judged by the same standards that you judge others, so be careful of your standards.

You asked “Jewish people a nation of priests bringing salvation to gentiles..??” yes read the chapters I sent you, I did not say they were obedient to God’s command, just that was his command for the Jewish people and his plan. He succeeded in that plan through Jesus Christ the Messiah, the Jewish carpenter the son of David, descendent of Rahab and Ruth; through the Jewish people the world was saved; in spite of the efforts of the Jewish leaders.

A for Just Wars, I do believe in them, WW2 was a good example; just because you can name one or more unjust wars does not make all wars unjust.

“Christianity speaks of resurrection now-- although up until the council of Constantinople they spoke of reincarnation” there is a difference between the two the Pharisees and the Sadducees argued over the same points.

I agree with Gandhi’s assessment of “Christians” I have the same misgivings about many of them. I do understand your view point and I would not discuss it with you if I felt you were trying to be obnoxious about it. It is a free and fair debate that many could join in, I do respect your opinion, and I just disagree with it. I think many here do benefit from both viewpoints being presented.

Comment by Denis Byrne on December 11, 2012 at 12:23pm

Hugh: Without doubt God Is; Always Was; and Always will be...Mankind's interpretations of the Almighty are what I must continue to question...Jewish people a nation of priests bringing salvation to gentiles..?? how does one war after another bring anybody salvation?/  They were chosen to receive a Messiah, they denied Him, called him a blasphemer, and hung Him up on the cross...   Some Chosen peoples huh!   they also killed many of their prophets....  Self defense by sword is far different from taking up a sword in order to make war..God can take life if He pleases...He can do anything he wants-- so certainly does not need advice from His human creatures...What authority did God give mankind to judge?   Jesus taught: judge not, that ye not be judged....What constitutes Just War is often decided after the fact as are most "predictions."   The Dali Lamma and Pope JP-2 both called the second Iraq war unjust as also the one in Afghanistan...IMO they offered a better opinion than any one  else could have,,,,but in the final analysis only God can judge...Kharma relies heavily on the law of attraction..  Evil deeds attract evil consequences to the perpetrator of evil while saintly deeds put one in place to receive many blessings.. Christianity speaks of resurection now-- although up until the council of Constantinople they spoke of reincarnation...There are still some passages in the Bible which refer to reincarnation...Hindus, a billion strong rely on reincarnation and kharma heavily....but IMO just because a billion people believe something does not make it a true fact...Jesus was resurrected in a glorified body and was not always recognizable by those who knew him...I cannot prove reincarnation, but it does make a certain amount of sense, and the only proof I would have of resurrection would be that fact that many reputable people witnessed the resurrection of Lord Jesus and were willing to happily die for their beliefs..Mahatma Gandhi made a very terse observation about Christianity...I love and highly respect  Christianity----too bad most Christians do not practice it...I fully respect your biblical scholarship and hope that you can respect my "devils advocate" and comparative religion stance...Hope our fellow CC bloggers can accept our dialogue on a freedom of speech and freedom of religion basis..

Comment by Hugh Akston on December 11, 2012 at 9:04am

Denis;

I think we can agree that God does not change. God in the Old Testament is the same God in the New Testament; as exemplified by the Jewish names of God: here are some:

Yahweh (Lord, Jehovah)
Jehovah Nissi (The Lord My Banner)
Jehovah-Raah (The Lord My Shepherd)
Jehovah Rapha (The Lord That Heals)
Jehovah Shammah (The Lord Is There)
Jehovah Tsidkenu (The Lord Our Righteousness)
Jehovah Mekoddishkem (The Lord Who Sanctifies You)
Jehovah Jireh (The Lord Will Provide)
Jehovah Shalom (The Lord Is Peace)
Jehovah Sabaoth (The Lord of Hosts)

Other than Jehovah Sabaoth, Lord of Hosts or Armies, which is so militaristic? God Chose the Jewish people to be  a Nation of Priests to bring Salvation to the Gentile Nations; see Exodus 19, or Isaiah 60-61, Genesis 12; the key being God Chose.

Kharma: actions from previous existence, and present actions determine their destiny for future existence. This is not what Jesus taught; he taught that there must be a payment for sin, the Sacrificial Lamb, he taught that even with forgiveness there is a payment for bad behavior; sexual misconduct can result in STDs even if your spouse forgives you. If you steal you must payback double, Exodus 22, regardless of forgiveness.

Please explain why Jesus told his disciples to go and buy swords prior to telling them that “they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.”

Luke 22:36-38 [36] Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. [37] For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. [38] And they said, Lord, behold, here [are] two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

Matthew 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every [thing there is] a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

He was telling them it was the wrong time for the Sword.

All men are without excuse before God, for forgiveness there must be repentance. Even evil men can say good things or have good ideas, so Good men like Gandhi can have good ideas. Hindus are heathen and polytheistic and have no problem putting the Virgin Mary and Christ into their home temples next to Kali, or in worshiping them together, that is not the many faces of god you seem to think it is.

Only one sin is never forgiven:

 Matthew 12:31-32 [31] Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. [32] And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come.

I do not even agree that only God has a right to take a life, I support Capital punishment; God gave man authority to judge men’s actions; I also believe in Just War” theory.

Comment by Denis Byrne on December 10, 2012 at 1:57pm

Hugh:  I think we can agree that the Jewish version of Jehovah was a God of Wrath to whom they prayed to assist them in their battes and their wars were many...Jesus came to earth to reform the Jewish nation and teach them that His Father was a God of Love...not love itself because there is no way to limit the capacity of God Almighty...The limited capacity is the finite human mind which receives input from the five senses and sometimes a sixth sense..... I think of Universal truth common to all the major religions established so far by various prophets...Universal Truth would IMO consist of the underlying harmony of all truth as taught by the great prophets down thru all ages...In the case of ancient India, two thousand years before Abraham..

...Of course Bhagavan Krishna is considered to be a Christ or annointed one of God...The Bhagavad Gita which he wrote is full of great wisdom...Many Christians consider Hindus heathen and polytheistic when Hindus are only explaining the many "aspects" of God like love...Rishis and highly advanced Yogis teach Kharma, the law of cause and effect.  Jesus also taught that law when he stated live by the sword die by the sword...  I have never stated that there is a free avenue to heaven by just believing in Lord Jesus and then doing as one pleases...My studies of Near Death Experience taught me that one can expect on death a Lifes Review...a panoramic vision of ones entire life on earth...At that time, a soul will experience the joy that it brought to others and to life in general, but by the same token, one will feel the pain, all the pain, that one caused others during human existance....that pain caused by sin is what I believe to be hell or eternal punishment...or punishment by the Eternal One  aka God Almighty...There have been numerous accounts during NDE of hell...Obviously it exists in the eternal realm...  However, the finite mind thinks of eternity as final, cut and dried, send hitler to a cage and let serpents bite him for ever or something like that... There is another view of eternity which I believe to be true, and that is the concept of Eternal Progression....On the earthly plane it is called evolution...I do not believe that an ape could somehow become a man, but I do believe that all creatures have the God-given capacity to adjust to their environment....Why would it be any different in eternity?? If we make it to heaven, are we just to sing in a choir of angels or stand around with cup of mint julip tea in hand talking to family members???

I once saw a translation of the New Testament in Aramaic, but I believe it was reduced from the Greek..  There are no doubt translators of very high order intelligence capable of going from Greek to English...But the early vulgate editions of the Holy Bible went from Greek to Latin to French or Olde English etc....  Latin is not that difficult to learn....But Greek, thats a tough one, at least for me....

In closing, I must add that there is no sin or group of sins that a Loving and Forgiving God will not forgive...Father forgive them for they know not what they do....  That is not to say there will not be a punishment to fit the crime...The Jewish leadership rejected not only the teachings of Lord Jesus, they killed him in the most painful and ignominious way available at the time....SO!.In 70AD Jerusalem was laid to waste by the Roman detatchment there...Some surviving Jews fled into the hills others, about 300,  fled to a place called Massada where the Romans took a year and a half to construct a ramp up inorder to kill the remaining fugitives...the jews fooled the romans as they all committed suicide...rather than fight to the last person standing....I do not recall any teachings by Lord Jesus on suicide---but my thought on the matter is that since it was God who gave life, only God has the right to take it...

Comment by Hugh Akston on December 10, 2012 at 9:51am

Denis,

First of all which “Translation” is correct? None that is why serious students must learn Latin, Greek and have an understanding of some other languages, barring that there are some good books that will help you do “word studies” by providing Greek\ Latin\ Hebrew cross reference dictionaries. Here the Moslems took a good idea; they only allow one Koran in an obscure variant of Arabic, as the only “True Koran”; all others are not a real Koran. All translations of the Koran have Arabic on one side and the translated language next to it, only the Arabic is considered the Koran. They burned all other translations and copies in the early years.

By Universalism I mean the religious version that says all ways are right; free pass for everyone, no punishment for anything and all ways lead to heaven. This is the hearsay taught by Pelagius and Arminius. To say God is only Love is to deny him the Sovereignty that is his.

Here is how the Bible puts it: “I am God and there is no other…my counsel shall stand and I will accomplish all my purpose” (Isaiah 46:10). “God does according to his will in the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth and none can stay his hand or say to him, ‘What doest thou?’” (Daniel 4:35). “But he is unchangeable and who can turn him? What he desires, that he does. For he will complete what he appoints for me” (Job 23:13, 14). “Our God is in the heavens; he does whatever he pleases” (Psalm 115:3).

God is righteous, God is Just, God is Merciful, God is Love, God is faithful, God never changes; and the list continues; you cannot take one attribute of God and define your religion around that. You statement “Jesus Redeemed all”; does that include Hitler? Pol Pot? Stalin? Jeffery Dahmer maybe or what about Charles Manson?

John 10:26-30 [26] But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. [27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: [28] And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. [29] My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand. [30] I and [my] Father are one.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

There is a hell Jesus said it several times, He described it and told of men going to hell, if you think all men are saved I suggest you reread Romans 9.

A final though;Jesus did not have a problem with the man  being rich, it was the man’s love for his possessions that stood in his way.

Comment by Denis Byrne on December 8, 2012 at 11:48am

Hugh:  Jesus said to the rich man: sell all your possessions, give to the poor and follow ME..  The rich man was unable, because his possessions were many and he was ATTATCHED to the material...Many sage,s rishis and general wise men before Jesus taught the same principle... A Bhuddist is to become the observer and practice renunciation..  Then there is the question of which translation of the Holy Bible does one take literally??...Fundamentalists claim the Word of God...which translation  is the real deal since there are so  many....It is the "inspired"  Word of God written by men...As you well know not all men are inspired equally..  OLD Testament written in Hebrew and the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered sixty some years ago prove its correctness in translation....different churches accept different books of OT as gospel///   The New Testament was written in Greek at first..Jesus spoke Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek...Then the books of NT were translated from Greek to other languages...So do you know of any Greek scholars who were able to translate directly from ancient Greek to modern English??? JohnWycliffe,s translation went from Latin to olde English as I recall, and  St Jerome's fourth century Vulgate version went from Hebrew and  Greek to Latin, then later translators took it from there. .  The oldest preserved manuscripts of NT are held at the Vatican and are supposedly dated dated circa 85AD..  There is much controversy as to who wrote what...I am not a betting man, but if I were to bet on which church has the best translation it would be Greek Orthodox...Going from Aramaic to Greek to Latin then to English is no easy task and subject to translation errors...Original Greek to modern English is certainly doable and less circuitous.

Regarding Hell,  first reminder is that a finite mind can never even if highly evolved, fully understand the infinite....Would a God of Love condemn one of his children to eternal damnation with no recourse..??.Jesus Redeemed all, not just an elite group of self-proclaimed saints...Jesus did indeed understand the Infinite and he taught mostly in parables and with metaphors...It was his message of Love, his two great commandments about love God and love neighbor that set him apart from all other teachers...By Universalism I assume you mean non-religious universal new world globalism with order and social principles applying to all.  I would look at religious universalism as a bona-fide effort to find the underlying harmony of all religions...All religions contain a great amount of truth, but none have a monopoly of ALL truth..IMO no one religion has the right to criticize the beliefs of another or to find fault with a particular practice as long as that practice is prayerful and respectful of God Almighty..

Comment by Hugh Akston on December 5, 2012 at 7:14am

I was not picking on Chief Tecumseh; I could have used quotes from Gandhi, Buddha, the Peace, Coexistence or Tolerance movements. The point is we often hear things that sound good but on closer inspection are just wrong, often we never apply a closer inspection to them.

For example Universalism is wrong, not all people will go to heaven, some will go to hell.

If you believe in a literal Heaven you must accept a literal hell.

Even Chief Tecumseh knew  there is a God, without the Bible, all creation cries out to the true Living God that is the point of the Sermon on Mars Hill; all men are without excuse in knowing a God exists and created the world.

Satan loves Universalism, because it deludes man into thinking he is not that bad, detracts from the Sovereignty of God, and denies the Sacrifice of Christ.

This particular quote is about Universalism, so while it sounds good it is still wrong.

Comment by Denis Byrne on December 3, 2012 at 2:07pm

Hugh: There is a nice town in Michigan named after Chief Tecumseh...The Chief did not depend on a particular translation of any holy book...he drew from meditation and inspiration... When St Paul approached the Athenians, who were seriously into the Socratic method, he noticed a lot of stone gods, false idols etc....His only common ground was that a small number of Athenians prayed to an Unknown God....Paul no doubt remembered his encounter with Jesus, the Son of God, on his way to Damascus....but Paul also knew full well that a finite mind has little chance of understanding the Infinite..  Many Atheniens sculpted a stone god and prayed to it for rain, good crops, healthy children etc...Their methods of prayer were obviously in error...The fact that they believed in God the Almighty was undisputable....  They knew without doubt that there was God Almighty...they were scatterbrained on the various aspects of God.. St Paul helped immensely to establish what is now called the Greek Orthodox Church...Throughout the millinia, they never needed reformation and have been faithfully steadfast in the observance of the teachings of Lord Jesus...There was never an apostasy of the Greek or Russian Orthodox church as there was in the Roman church...Salvation no doubt is a gift...However, one must sit on Santa Clauses lap and tell whether we have been good or bad...There could be some spankyspanky for us bad kids...

Comment by Jerome on December 3, 2012 at 7:03am

Tecumseh was speaking to a group of tribal chiefs and chieftains.  There were only a few Christian tribes at that time in America, many of the Cheyenne, and of course the Flathead tribes.  It is our commission to spread he Word to every living creature, at the time of Tecumseh, that commission had not been accomplished.  Tecumseh was not speaking or advising today's Christians on how we should worship.

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