Just received this from oath keepers ; 

URGENT Warning on OR Standoff: Military Special OP Assets Have Been Assigned for Standoff. Get All Children Out of There Immediately

Oath Keepers has received very credible information from an active duty source within the special operations community that at least one SOD-X (Reserve/National Guard Special Operations Detachment, see thisthis, and this) unit under the command of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) has been tasked for this standoff at the Malheur Wildlife Reserve and moved to the area.   Given this, we should expect that other special operations assets, such as Delta Force, will also be involved if the Obama Administration decides to give the green light on a military raid/strike.  And we should expect the presence of the infamous FBI HRT (which were present at both Ruby Ridge and Waco).
Due to this, anyone who has children there, at the wildlife refuge, needs to get them out immediately, and DO NOT take any more children there for any reason (and we do know that some children, including a baby, have been seen there).  We do not need to have the risk of dead children in this incident.  It is unconscionable and immoral for anyone to place children at risk of being in the middle of a firefight or military raid/strike on the armed men holding that federal wildlife refuge.   Now, of course, just because military special operations units have been sent to the area and are tasked with a possible action does not mean it will be done.  It may not.  But we DO NOT trust the Obama Administration to do this right, which would be to handle it like the Montana Freeman standoff rather than the Waco standoff, and anyone who thinks that Obama wouldn't dare drop the hammer on Ammon and his men is a fool.   We hope "the adults in the room" in the Administration and in the federal LEO and military community will keep that from happening, but hope is not an operational plan.  We don't trust them, and you shouldn't either, so:
Get, and keep, children off the friggin X.
This is not a "free speech" barbecue at Bundy Ranch with live music by Jordan Page.   This is a whole different animal.   Children have no business being there.   In fact, there should be no non-combatants (no women and children) there at all.   This is not a family event.  The only people there should be the armed men who are willing to die there with Ammon Bundy and his brothers and a couple of embedded reporters.   If they want to put themselves at risk, that is their choice, but don't have children there.   If a dozen men die in a shootout, that is one thing, but if children die, there will be a civil war.
Oath Keepers
 
Short Oath Keepers Statement on this Standoff
I will post a longer statement later, but for now, here is a brief statement on this situation, in general:
Oath Keepers adamantly opposes the armed takeover of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge.  This is not in keeping with the moral imperative of only using force in defense when people's lives are at stake, as at Bundy Ranch in 2014.  In this case, neither the Hammonds nor their neighbors were in imminent threat of being murdered, and neither the Hammonds nor their neighbors asked for any form of armed standoff.   In fact, they oppose it.  This is being done by outsiders who mislead and deceived locals, deceived the Hammonds, and deceived the patriot movement by luring them in with a peaceful rally and then attempting to rope them into a premeditated, manufactured armed standoff.   Both Ammon Bundy and Ryan Payne (who we suspect is an agent provocateur) told the locals in the Committee of Safety, at a public town hall meeting on December 15, that they, the locals on the committee, would be making the decisions on what was to be done, how, and when.   That was a lie, as they were already staging their men and supplies in the area to takeover the wildlife refuge, and had already planned out this takeover of the federal facility at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge.  By doing this, they have given Obama the best New Years present he could hope for - an example of militia movement/patriot aggression, which gives up the high ground while also having the least credibility and support from the locals possible, after lying to them, and also the least support from the patriot community, who were also blind-sided by Ammon and Ryan Payne.
However, as much as we oppose what Ammon Bundy and Ryan Payne have done, we must warn the Obama Administration that it does not have free reign to "Waco" the people in this standoff by using deadly military force, such as an SOD-X, Delta Force, or the FBI HRT to kill them all.  The Federal government must respect their right to due process and do all it can to end this standoff peacefully, without loss of life.   It must treat it like the Freeman standoff, not the Waco standoff.   There will be no more free Wacos, as Mike Vanderbgh, Founder of the Three Percenter movement puts it.  Treat this with kid gloves or risk a civil war.
Stewart Rhodes
Founder and President of Oath Keepers

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Comment by Norma J. Sears on January 31, 2016 at 9:25am

Strange..........Nothing to do with the topic but both the last names Patrick and Santoro were people my family knew in the 1940s.  The Patricks  and their kids went to church with my family.  My oldest sister and next brother dated with them as teen agers.   And, I had a crush on one of their sons around age 12.

That same time a Tony Santoro lived in the apartment above us.  I later learned Tony lived until his nineties.  I recall a picnic with our two families at a local park way back then.  I couldn't have been more than five or six.

Makes me wonder the connection of the names as I've found many similar names in my life located in places my ancestor's lived while doing genealogy. 

Just some tid bits of consequence to me.

Comment by Norma J. Sears on January 31, 2016 at 9:14am

It's a darn shame that most people will only get the "official" narrative and not the one you have provided, James.

Comment by Patricia Gillenwater on January 30, 2016 at 9:18pm

James, I do not recall the sheriff's name. I would bet that the display of emotion guilt was at the heart of it.

Comment by Susan Nielsen on January 30, 2016 at 8:55pm

This is a great timeline of information on the Oregon Situation! Thanks  members Keep it going!

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Comment by James on January 30, 2016 at 4:58pm

Patricia was that the Grant county sheriff or the Harney county sheriff  ? they were heading to Grant county the sheriff there is Glen Palmer a member of Oath Keepers if it was the Harney county sheriff I saw that interview & I think that was his guilt coming through !

Comment by Patricia Gillenwater on January 30, 2016 at 4:50pm

The point is being lost that the folks were trying to reach the local sheriff to talk with him. The feds hell bent to not let that happen and keep the power and control. If anyone saw the press conference and witnessed the outward feelings of the sheriff, a man who knew the people, he was upset. The sheriff made a statement that channels should be used instead of civil disobedience this surprised me since channels were used with the feds over and over and they ignored the citizens.

Comment by Patricia Gillenwater on January 30, 2016 at 4:43pm

James, You posted this link http://www.groundzeromedia.org/snowblind-clear-as-crystal/ and I felt the argument presented a good one. Thanks..

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